UV-E football season ends on a downer

The last day of the football season for UV-Edmeston was one that I will always remember – although, preferably, I wish I had selective amnesia. UV-E hosted Oxford on a Thursday evening in a non-league matchup to round out each team’s nine-game schedule. The two clubs had exactly one combined win, so as expected, we saw some good moments, and plenty of bad ones. The Storm looked to avoid a winless season, and Oxford hoped to salvage a rebuilding year with its second win. At the outset, I told Evening Sun photographer, Frank Speziale, that I expected a tight, competitive game. It was. Statistically, there was little difference, and each team scored three touchdowns. The final difference – two points – was the Blackhawks’ success on one more two-point conversion. What followed the game was plain ugliness and disrespect – from an unruly fan/parent or two, as well as a couple of players. No one, and I repeat NO ONE finds a winless season acceptable. That includes all of the players, coaching staff, along with the program’s supporters. The time to air grievances is not in the middle of a playing field. What I observed first was the loud berating of the UV-E coaching staff as it prepared to go through the handshake line – in full earshot of the players. Subsequently, a couple of players walked away – spurning their teammates in the post-game huddle. The discourse that ensued is not printable here. It’s easy to pass the blame on to someone else rather than take responsibility for one’s actions. Sure, a player may not agree with every tactical decision made by a coach, but the coach isn’t on the field missing blocks, missing tackles, dropping passes or fumbling the ball away. I am reminded of a quote from Remember the Titans: “We will be perfect in every aspect of the game. You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss a blocking assignment, you run a mile. You fumble the football, and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hind parts, and then you will run a mile. Perfection.” As most people know, the movie was based on a true story, and the man who uttered the quote, Coach Herman Boone, ran a fairly simple offense with just six plays – six! Even the most basic of offenses I see today are more complicated than the one Coach Boone used to win championships. Perhaps more than any other sport, proper execution is the key to success in football. And football is an ultimate team game where the success or failure of the team may hinge on any particular player on the field at any time. It is unfortunate that the emotions of the moment override good sense. It is even more unfortunate that my final impression of the UV-E team is one of the more sour moments in my 14-year career covering football.

41 Responses to “UV-E football season ends on a downer”

  1. uvparent Says:

    Knowing some of the players and families involved – definitely not a surprise. UV could save some money next year by eliminating (for one year) the sports program these kids take for granted. It might clean up some of the attitudes we see floating around here.

  2. Community member Says:

    Sad, but this has been going on for longer than one game. I’m not sure, but I don’t think there are many UVE parents who went to college and played football for more than a year or played in the NFL. How many have actually coached JV or Varsity Football? Coaching from the sidelines is totally different from coaching JV or Varsity on the field. A few fans with nasty mouths who aren’t qualified to coach are not helping to create respectful, responsible citizens/athletes. Whether we agree or disagree with a coach, we need to remember this is NOT about the adults. It is about the kids! I have no doubt that these “kids” would not act as disrespectful to the coaches or their teammates if it wasn’t tolerated by the parents. Unfortunately, disrespect is not only tolerated, but modeled by a select few parents. Thanks to those supportive parents who value respect and insist their children show it. Showing respect doesn’t mean you agree with someone, it shows you are worthy of being respected as well.

  3. Volunteer of the year Says:

    Can’t find anyone to volunteer in the snack shack or anywhere else but we sure have alot of folks who think they can coach. For the people who complain at UV answer me this. In a 4-4 defence between the right end and right tackle who would start a cross block? And which player would pull on a sweep left in a 5-3?

  4. uv parent Says:

    I’m a parent of one of those UV varsity players and its not a Unadilla Valley player’s parent that you are hearing yelling at the coaches, its two edmeston players fathers, who the coaches think just love them and well by the way you heard them yell, Mr Newell, you know that they don’t think much of the coaches. UV should really think of dissolving the contract with Edmeston and playing with just NB & SNB kids – yes just UV kids. Maybe the problems would stop.

  5. UV Fan/Parent Says:

    I am a parent of one of the football players from UV. I couldn’t agree more with Mr. Newell. The actions of the parents and children were ridiculous. I have always told the parents and players I’ve coached to take some time to think before they speak. But this is more to the reponders of the blog. First, it was UV parents and kids that made the comments, not Edmeston. Second, without Edmeston there is no football. Not enough interest from UV. To the volunteer, first the snack shack is operated by a class or club within the school. The kids are resposible as well as the class/club advisor at least at the varsity games. Secondly, There are a number of “fans” along the sidelines that are very knowledgable of the game. This does not give them the right to berate the coaching staff. Most parents/fans would not know what to do against these defenses, but it is important that the kids know. By watching the games this year it was apparent that the players did not and that is a direct reflection of the coaching staff. Before asking parents these questions maybe they should be asking the coaching staff. By the way, in a 4-4 the tackle would go first to kick out the end assuming the play is going between the tackle and end. In the 5-3 a sweep left should have the backside guard pull or in this case the right guard.

  6. lynne Says:

    i have grandson who plays on jv at uv and they are a combination of uv/edmeston. these boys have played together and have won almost every game. the difference between the jv and the v is the varsity team plays with too many egos. THERE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THEY THINK TEAM IS SPELLED WITH AN I IN IT. COME WATCH A JV GAME AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE. OUR JV BOYS ARE MOVING UP TO VARSITY NEXT YEAR AND YOU WILL SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND WILL HAVE A WINNING SEASON.

  7. Carl Anderson Says:

    I’m a parent of a UV JV football player. I would have welcomed for the parents and varity players, to have come out and watched the JV boys play. They played as a team, won as a team and lost a couple games as a team. The parents helped out, by doing stats, chain gang and supported there boys. Some of these boys had not lost a game since pee wees. But when they lost a game I saw nothing like I saw the other night. I also feel this has alot to do with the coaching staff and parents. Maybe we should change coaching staff (varsity)and promote the JV coaches. They had the respect of the players and parents, I’m not saying that is the falt of the varsity coaching staff. That fault falls on the parent. But it is time for a change, these 9th grade boys have gone three years with out loosing a game, they lost three this year, but all games were close and the boys never gave up on them selves or there teamates. I would like to see this continue, because there are some really good kids both 9th and 10th graders. They have a bright future as long as they stick together and continue grow as a team. I feel this will continue because the parents of these kids both UV and Edmeton will not allow that type of behavior from these kids. In closing I feel we all need to make sure something like that never happens again at UV, we are all (kids, parents) better than that and should show it.

  8. FormerUVPlayer Says:

    It is terrible to see what is happening to a program that I grew up watching then playing for. It seems as though now the only things UV football is remembered for are bad, both on and off the field. The coaching staff has lost the respect of the players, and obviously the parents confidence. I know what its like to be on a losing UV football team, and feeling the pressure to win not only for ourselves, but for the community as well. This pressure leads to pent up frustrations that tend to come out with an 0-9 season. I am not condoning what the players did, but I understand what they felt, especially the seniors. I feel that the entire program needs to change collectively for any progress to be made

  9. U.V. Observation Says:

    Great thread Pat! This has been brewing for sometime at our campus. It’s just irresponsible parents and players who allow this to happen. The majority of our programs are suffering due to kids/ parents who think they run the programs. To the biligerent parents/players I hope you are seniors so we can cleanse our system of you. And as for our football, this IS NOT 8 man football anymore you have to work in the off season, how many kids use that expensive weight room in the off season? The days of walking on the field in late August and winning are gone. It’s just recreational football until the players ,coaches ,parents, Administrators make the necessary changes. They go to school for an education not to play football. I give the kids credit who were not trouble makers, that stuck with it through the whole season. Oh by the way I had a chance to watch the JV, and both modified teams play this season, they are having fun win or lose. And yes they respect their coaches. We could hire Bill Parcels you still need the personnel to win that’s the flat truth. We have some great kids at UV unfortunately they get stuck in the middle of all this idiot parent crap. To our school board and Superintendent please put this on your agenda so we don’t have to keep beating this dead horse it’s getting old. So we can get to more important things like education.

  10. uvparent Says:

    I have seen & heard the varsity coaches belittle the football team, I have heard them call them losers. You tell me is that the way a coach is suppose to talk to these kids, and they want respect, I don’t think so. I think the JV coach would be a great varsity coach. The kids really respect and like him.

  11. uvparent Says:

    There must be two uvparent codes on this site (I’m the first post at the top). This uvparent has seen the senior players belittle their fellow players. Instead of stepping up into the role of a leader – they act like little children and whine. One senior thinks he could go to college on a football scholarship – wait till he pulls what he pulled this past season with a college coach – he will be coming home for good at the end of the semester. His parents will be unable to bail him out this time.

  12. michele Says:

    UV Parent nov16th 11:41: How sad for you to come on here and comment about someone’s son. They are all children and you are an adult, let me just let you know that in reading all of this, I believe that way to many of you commented on the seniors. Football is a team sport and both the seniors and the coaches needed to work better together. This was a sad season for everyone and I believe that our UV Board and Mr Mackey all know that there is some work ahead but its not just one player’s fault and you shouldn’t throw stones unless you truly know what your talking about.

  13. uvparent Says:

    Hats off to the UV Seniors – never mind a comment from an adult who doesn’t know any of you and what great kids you truly are. Good luck at the next level, if any of you wish to follow your dreams and keep playing hard.

  14. uvparent Says:

    Hats off to the UV Seniors – never mind a comment from an adult who doesn’t even know any of you. My heart breaks to think that someone from UV would come on here and comment about someone’s son, that person must be a true loser, after all these are just high school students and your an adult. Good luck to you and your children in the future, if you would say something like that about someone else’s son, your children must have very few friends.

  15. UVparent Says:

    I appreciate the coaching staff and their time given the last few years, but it’s time for a change. Very hard for a 3rd generational coach to be coaching 1st generational players. Too much of a gap. I heard players quit on coach after 2 games. There is no excuse for the same players to be coming out of a very successful pee-wee program beating the same teams that the varsity plays to be crushed the way it was. One noticable difference was at the Greene game when you had the head coach with 5 assitant coaches on sideline and 2 in the PA booth with headsets on. We had 2 assitants to the head-coach. Very hard coaching with so few coaches. UV needs to improve their overall athletics. They have new facilities including an Olympic size pool with no swim team. They need to recruit head coaches not just advertise. Footbal and Basketball very important sports to the local community. We need younger no nonsense guy like Stan Foulds to run this program like the succesful Norwich Pop Warner program which he ran for 30 years. We definately have the talent. JV coach is not ready. need new crew to come in here.

  16. Ashley Granger Says:

    I think that this article is nothing but garbage… As a student who attends school with the players on the UV-E football team… I am extremely offended and think that this article is absolutely dumb… I do not think that anyone realizes all that the boys on our football team went through this year during the season… the parents that are telling everyone that they were whining a lot does not know what they are talking about.

  17. former player Says:

    It’s sad to see what the ENB Griffins turned out to be. We put a lot of pride in making sure we had a football team, for our senior year after the depleation of nine man. And what it came down to it didn’t matter what school you came from, we loved to play football. And by the sounds the coaches and players have forgotten. It’s not weather you win or lose. As long as you gave it your all. Oh yeah we only won one game and it was a team from NJ that never played tackle football. I give my hats off to the coaches that year that brought the two schools together.

  18. CHUNK Says:

    i am a jv football player it is not just coaching. When i was a freshman we only one 2 games out of the whole season. This year with the same coach we whent 6-3. So its definatly not the coaching. ITS HOW BAD YOU WANT TO WIN. ITS HEART AND DISIRE TO PLAY WITH ALL YOU GOT. IF ONE MAKES A MISTAKE WE ALL MAKE A MISTAKE THATS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL A FAMILIY. IT DOSNT MATTER WHAT TOWN THEY COME FROM EDMESTON,SOUTH NEW BERLIN, OR NEW BERLIN THEY ARE ALL MY BROTHERS AND WE ARE ALL A FAMILY. RESPECT IS EARNED,NOT GIVIN. TEAM-
    T=TOGETHER E=EVERYONE A=ACHEVES M=MORE COME WATCH THE VASITY NEXT YEAR.

  19. Alumni Ball Player Says:

    I think the biggest problem with School Sports today is the lack of interest, and the lack of respect from SOME of the students. Not all students are disrespectful. In this case you see that the Staff at the school as well as the coaches tolerate this behavior….otherwise there would be no sports program. That to me is a bad excuse, we should be teaching values such as respect, self worth, and teamwork. Without any one of these our children will Fail in society as adults. So If need be take out the program, and take care of the children

  20. mike Says:

    As a parent of a UV-E football player, I understand the frustration the kids and parents felt. As a football player, fan and parent, I have watched hundreds of games and believe this years varsity football team was much better than their record shows. This was perhaps not a championship team, but at least a .500 team. I too appreciate the time and effort the coaching staff put forth but I also believe it is time for a change in direction for this program. It tears your heart out as a parent to watch these kids play their hearts out and come up empty every time. I believe there were many coaching decisions made that lead to this disasterous season. I do not condone the obvious disrespect of the coaching staff, but as a parent and player sometimes emotions get the best of you. The head coach on one occasion this year was booted from the game if you remember. I see this coaching staff as being without any new ideas and using 8 man football plays against teams that clearly were not surprised. We have a wonderful football complex and I would not like to see the program go away from lack of interest due to kids not wanting to be part of a losing program. A few of you talk about the JV teams success, which is to be commended, but this years varsity players had winning teams all the way up to the varsity level as well. Thats where it seems to come apart. I do not believe egos are a problem. Someone mentioned the kids not using the weight room during the summer, but there was never a program put together for the kids to use. I know the head coach is a good man, but I believe we need a change of direction and we need it now. The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again, and expect differnt results. Thats where we are. Don’t blame the kids. They want to win as bad as anyone else. Lets give them that opportunity.

  21. Parks,Curtis,Wyman Says:

    The kid that was mentioned about trying to get a scholarship for football was the only bright spot of the season. He was the only player that gave it all every game that he was ALLOWED TO PLAY.He was trying to be a captain when one of his own fellow teammates went over him to make himself look better. If he had the proper coaching he could have done things that Unadilla Valley Football had never seen. I am just gonna say i would love to see MR. Flynn coach our varsity football team because he has the mentality TO WIN and not the mentality to play everybody. WE HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR THE uv SENIORS FOR NOT QUITING WHEN TIMES GOT TOUGH. Mainly Jay your the man and we cant wait to watch you play at the level that that you deserve to be playing at.

  22. UV Player Says:

    LMAO…The season is over let it go, I’m looking forward to next season already!!! The trouble makers are gone!!! Time ta play some team football!!!And have some fun!!

  23. VarsityFootball player Says:

    im a varsity football player for uv-e its not all the players fault… you cant give teh coaches a good squad and have them win with them its just not going to happen.and jay didnt deserve how the coaches treated him.so you guy can talk all you want untill you know what really happen just shut up

  24. Outsiderlookingin Says:

    Maybe its time to Merge with Cherry Valley.

  25. UV parent Says:

    First of all, There was a mailing that went out to the football players that the weight room was open during the summer and Tom was there. There were a few of the JV and V kids there, but the ones that used the weight room was the modified kids.So yes the weight room was open. It is a good thing that the seniors are leaving, there is a few of them and yes they are from UV and they are trouble makers so it will be good to see them leave. You say that the coaches treated Jay bad well look at the way he was to the coaches and to fellow teammates, he was never in the huddle always standing back thinking that he was IT. The boys that are coming up to Varsity need a fresh start to come into. They have alot of talent and play together and all get along and are there for eachother. I do believe that Mr. Loeffler will do very good with this team. The parents seem to be involved with the JV team.
    This blog needs to stop as it is looking bad for UV, The trouble is leaving the school this year and I think there will be none of the stuff that went on this year, Those kids moving up are not bad kids.
    So lets look into the future and leave the past behind for the upcoming UV boys.

  26. UV Mom Says:

    To:UV PARENT NOVEMBER 19th

    How do you call yourself a parent when you can actually put an opinion about some elses child in black and white. The community wonders why we have a problem with our students showing respect when you as a parent can’t even show respect to another mother’s child.

    Wishing away kids from school, i just can’t even fathom this idea. School is suppose to be one of the memories that you will never forget and our seniors get to leave thinking that they were “troublemakers”! And next year when we don’t have that perfect season that some seem to think we will have, Who will you blame then?

    To the upcoming football players, do your best, as a parent that is all we can ask for, this is not a perfect world and mistakes will happen, just learn from them and move on.

    To the Seniors enjoy your last year and forget the bad memories that some parents have left to you. Every child matters and Jay you matter to your mother!

  27. VarsityFootball player Says:

    To all the parents,fans,and the media you guys can say what you want but what it come down to is what really happen.behide those closed door the players are the only ones who know what really happend.you hear all this talk about jay and the coaches but you really dont know what happen all you guys hear is the different stories.Some of it was the coaches fault but yet some of it was the players too.Us players got frustrated we were tried of losing.when your losing and your doing everything you coach tell you to do you start to wonder why your losing.After we played the second to last game of the that we lost we were in the locker room and the only person to say sometihng was jay.He was the only senior to step up and say something to the team and all he said was that we needed to play with some heart and desire.now to all you people who say jay is this bad person you guys need to think agian he gave it his all this year.then during the last game of the season came and we were tried of hear all these people say that we dont play like a team and in reality we did the whole season.we still lost that game by two points and how do you lose a game by two by bad play calling we played with heart and desire and we still lsot that game.but this season is over now all i have to say is good luck you senior guys and that this season was hysterical and we needed a miracle.

  28. CHUNK Says:

    I belive we should all FORGET and FORGIVE about this years season.we will remember what happend this season and try to not repeat our mistakes and learn from them. Ya we need changes but who is to judge who makes our changes and what changes should be made. IF we play with all we got hopefully we will have a good turn out next year. LETS BRING SOME UVE PRIDE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU SENIORS.

  29. Justin Sigler#63 UVE Football Player Says:

    As a player and captain that is talked about in this article, i can’t believe what it says. At the end of the Oxford game, some players let their emotions get the best of them and yes i was one of them. Like when a coach calls one of his players somthing not printable on here for when a play didnt go as planed, or when a coach is kicked out of a game for absecne behavior.Is this any excuse for what happend? They say “YOU LEAD BY EXAMPLE”. I ask you this, have you ever had this happen to you or are you perfect? No one, including yourself Mr. Newell have no idea what my fellow teammates and i endured this season. I can remember a time when my teammates and i loved to play football for UVE whether we were winning or losing. We came up through the levels together and winning and losing was never a factor. It wasn’t until this season that we the players were referred to as “losers” by our coach and that he was “embarrased” to be on the same field as our team, Why because we were losing? As seniors we were able to let these destructive words roll off our backs but as an underclassman experiencing varsity football for the first time you tend to take it to heart. I am not looking for sympathy, because as a TEAM going to every practice and game we knew that no matter what the coaches thought of us, we were going to work hard and have fun. FUN is what high school football is suppose to be about, but that fun was taken out of our game. Coaches should be respected, but in the same instance shouldn’t young men receive the same respect when they are on the field putting their heart and soul into the game. RESPECT is not a given but earned, I can say this because each one of my teammates earned the respect from one another not only for giving a 100% everytime we stepped on the grid iron together, but to go through one of the worst memories of our high school football careers.Some say the football program should be cancelled, why? Should the younger kids be punished for a season they had nothing to do with. This is not the answer, if more thought was put into the program and staffing and with a lot of hard work you would see UVE football return to its winning ways. Good luck to my fellow teamates and senoirs. And yes iam not ashamed to print my name, as some should do the same.

  30. VarsityFootball player Says:

    You people talk about our egos being high the only reason why they are high is becuase our family coming from winning schools new berlin,south new berlin and edmeston were all winners.our parents were winners.our egos are high because all we hear about is how great the football team used to be and us players would love to have a winning team and when we act that we want a winnin season you guy say we have ego problems are you kidding me grow up we dont have a ego problem.our problem is the coches

  31. Outsiderlookingin Says:

    Winners? New Berlin, SNB, Edmeston? Compiared to who? Dont let your parents fool you son. It’s not as if those schools were ever in the BCS.

  32. Cris Lloyd' Mikalunas Says:

    I am so sick over some of these blogs! Too UV parent Nov 18,1:05 you should be ashamed of yourself just who do you think you are, talking about a kid like this. Even going as far as using his name. Its my opinion that people who live in little glass house should not throw stones. They also should not hide behind UV parent, you have so much to say but yet you hide. Well Ive done my homework Nov 18th 1:05. I’m not afraid and I’m her to tell you, you have no business talking about my nephew or any other kid for that matter.You say this blog is making UV look bad but that didn’t stop you form putting your 2 cent in. # 30 has alot of respect for himself and other but what you people forget is respect is earned it not just given and I think form all of #30 teammates blogs their was a great lack of respect for the coaches as well.To #63 I give you alot of credit for using your name and writing about how stressful this session was for the whole team and I’m sorry for you kids. This is the time for memories to be made and to remember for ever. To #30 don’t worry about a few negative jealous people because I know you will go father than Nov 18th 1:05 and for that matter don’t worry about Nov 16th I bet SHE never went to collage. You kids are what matters and in my opinion you kid rocked this year now matter what they say.

  33. A UV Grandma that attended these games Says:

    School years are the best time of your life. Every child is important and should be allowed to have a good education. Adults verbal opinions (Nov 18th 1:05)in a blog, What is this mentioning a child’s name pointing fingers to one child. Teammates telling the readers what is going on at UV. UV staff responding ,teachers are adults that should show the highest respect for them self and their students. At a time when the governor is making cuts, UV will have to make alot of sacrifice in children’s programs. Seniors will graduate and do very well in life. I’m sure cuts will be made in the teaching staff to run the school. And again life will go on and on. Its time to get back to the books, I’m asking the board of education to look into the teaching staff and see just what is going on. Maybe make some cuts according, our tax payers money can go for more than this!!!!!!

  34. VarsityFootball player Says:

    ok last time i knew the bcs was for college and yes new berlin and edmeston were winner im not talkin about championship im talking about winning seasons

  35. Cris Says:

    These blogs make me sick, this is to Nov.16th and Nov 18th 1:05. First of all Nov 18th 1:05 just who do you think you are to single out one kid by using his first name for the whole community to see. And you don’t even have the nerve to use your own name (you coward). Its my opinion that people who live in little glass house shouldn’t throw stone’s.You say this blog is looking bad for UV but that didn’t stop you from putting in you 2 cents. As for the lack of respect goes, I swear you must be a teacher. Because I always heard how I was so disrespectful in school but I had know reason to give respect to some of you teachers. Respect is Earned not just given and I think the coaches also had a huge lack of respect for the players. Do not single out my Nephew he was not the only player on the team. As far as #30 not being in the huddle because you say he was standing back like he was just IT, well maybe he is, I can tell you he is to me. #30 don’t worry about these immature jealous people I know you will go father than Nov 18th 1:05 has. And I’ll bet Nov 16th has never gone to collage.You will move on through life and you will see that UV is just a stepping stone in one part of your very big life. You will look back and laugh and these people they will still be picking on some other poor kid. #63 I give you alot of credit for using your name unlike some people, and I am sorry that you boys had such a stressful season. Just know you boys rock, so what you didn’t win, Winning isn’t everything. This is just another stepping stone

  36. Outsiderlookingin Says:

    vfp, ok so your parents are winners or lets say winers. They beat up on the likes of the Morris mustangs, the Mt. Upton mounties and the cheery valley trogans. Congrats goes out to them. Oh by the way the bcs thing, it was a joke.

  37. all parent coaching staff Says:

    The way this blog sounds maybe Uv should form an all parent coaching staff. I’m not sure but I’ve never heard of them having a rich history in football but alot of you sure seem to think you know alot about it.Comeon now the days of beating up on Gilbertville are over.

  38. VarsityFootball player Says:

    Ok you say are parents are winers.Are parents are winer b.c they take time out of their day during the summer and bring us to practices and pick us up after school and you say there winers all they want to see is us win do you think they want to see us lose 61-0 on our homecoming game.do you think they want to be told how to act at the games.do you think they want our cocah to tell us he ashamed to be on the same feild as us.do you think Jay`s parent want the coachs to treat him like crap for no reason.our parents are tried of paying for these programs just to say we have them.they want this football program to be liek a walton like they know it should be

  39. Holy Crap Says:

    This has been one interesting blog – but everyone has to admit – reading the students’ responses is like reading some kid with crayon essay. These students are 17 and 18 years old and within two years of graduating – why do they write so poorly? I think they need to give up the football and pick up the pen. The students need to practice a skill they will need in life.

  40. Lindsay Clapperton Says:

    I went to school with every one of these football players. And during my time in high school I attended most of the football games. Yes there were some pretty bad losses but there were also some very nice wins too. While the players this year are saying that Jay did not deserve being called whatever he was called, and he didn’t, Take a look back at last year when another player was called a bunch of names at almost every game. Then you say that there are troublemakers on the team and that is why they lost…every sport during every season has troublemakers. It is part of the game now…not a good part but a part at any rate.

  41. nesecrarl Says:

    I watch this guy for year, yea he do a lot of crazy stuff, but I know he is a really good and nice person. My boyfriend got his all best fights and we probably going to pray today and watch his in ring – so sad love you Mike.

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